遊戲大亂鬥

版上有大大發了，我就不廢話，補充一下重點

KYO認為建東到其他實況主台花錢

讓那個實況主到KYO的DC是惡意攻擊是買網軍

建東表示他只是斗內50份訂閱

告訴那位實況主如果要討論政治

可以到KYO的DC++

KYO認為建東是為了朋友在DC被他洗臉不滿

才會惡意攻擊他

建東表示，因為台灣迷因跟KYO在DC討論時，被調小音量

為了替朋友打抱不平才開始看KYO實況

看了一陣子後，發現KYO開台講的東西都與事實不符

所以才會針對他

建東問KYO為何他可以評論檢視別的網紅

但只要有人評論KYO就被KYO認為是惡意攻擊

KYO說他沒有評論任何人

之後又改口說除了館長沒有評論任何人

要建東不要惡意造謠抹黑

VOD幾分幾秒?

建東說他記得有，但不知道是哪天他忘了

但他忘了 聊天室網友不會忘

要KYO不要把網友當白痴

結果小藍查到KYO有評論其他網紅的VOD

KYO又改口說有

然後討論到要對賭

但建東怕KYO關VOD

KYO表示他的VOD一直都是開著的

結果被網友打臉12/9號的VOD是關著的

又改口 : 喔 有些不能開啦

然後就是某人一直跳針的部分就不說了

懂得都懂

開頭那篇有剪輯

以下是網友整理的逐字稿 : (沒分誰，但大家應該都分得出來)

[00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:01.380]  我是你的粉絲啊

[00:00:01.380 --> 00:00:04.180]  常常都掛著你的台在收聽

[00:00:04.180 --> 00:00:04.900]  可是

[00:00:04.900 --> 00:00:06.580]  可是我不是你的粉絲啊

[00:00:06.580 --> 00:00:07.420]  我也不認識你

[00:00:07.420 --> 00:00:08.420]  對啊 所以我們

[00:00:08.420 --> 00:00:09.820]  所以我就比較好奇一點

[00:00:09.820 --> 00:00:10.980]  嘿 請說

[00:00:10.980 --> 00:00:11.780]  好奇什麼

[00:00:11.780 --> 00:00:12.780]  嗯 比較好奇一點

[00:00:12.780 --> 00:00:13.780]  好奇一點

[00:00:13.780 --> 00:00:15.420]  為什麼你要針對我

[00:00:15.420 --> 00:00:17.380]  喔 我已經講得很清楚了

[00:00:17.380 --> 00:00:19.220]  我大概公開講了五次吧

[00:00:19.220 --> 00:00:20.220]  就說

[00:00:20.220 --> 00:00:23.020]  因為我想你常常在甄貶時事嘛

[00:00:23.020 --> 00:00:25.700]  針對很多KOL的發表言論嘛

[00:00:25.700 --> 00:00:27.500]  原本我是不認識你的啦

[00:00:27.500 --> 00:00:28.140]  然後呢

[00:00:28.140 --> 00:00:30.740]  我一個好朋友去參加你的DC++嘛

[00:00:30.740 --> 00:00:31.740]  然後他

[00:00:31.740 --> 00:00:33.500]  這個整個過程

[00:00:33.500 --> 00:00:34.380]  這個不是很

[00:00:34.380 --> 00:00:35.980]  這個感受不是很好

[00:00:35.980 --> 00:00:37.580]  所以他跟我抱怨了一下

[00:00:37.580 --> 00:00:39.180]  啊 我就來看你的台

[00:00:39.180 --> 00:00:41.340]  我想說 哇 你這麼

[00:00:41.340 --> 00:00:43.180]  擅長去這個

[00:00:43.180 --> 00:00:45.180]  評論每一個不同的KOL

[00:00:45.180 --> 00:00:45.820]  我想呢

[00:00:45.820 --> 00:00:48.980]  你自己本身應該也是很受得了檢驗

[00:00:48.980 --> 00:00:50.220]  所以我們就是用

[00:00:50.220 --> 00:00:53.100]  你在檢驗別人的方式來檢驗你這樣

[00:00:53.100 --> 00:00:54.220]  就是這麼單純

[00:00:54.220 --> 00:00:56.620]  然後就是做一個這樣實況的內容

[00:00:56.620 --> 00:00:58.620]  我想你應該也可以認同吧

[00:00:58.620 --> 00:01:00.860]  當然不對啊

[00:01:00.860 --> 00:01:02.060]  哪裡不對

[00:01:02.060 --> 00:01:04.300]  因為在你朋友

[00:01:04.300 --> 00:01:06.300]  進我DC之前

[00:01:06.300 --> 00:01:10.700]  我從來沒有去評論過其他的KOL

[00:01:10.700 --> 00:01:12.700]  我那時候在聊的全部都是時事

[00:01:12.700 --> 00:01:13.500]  是嗎

[00:01:13.500 --> 00:01:14.940]  而你朋友跟我

[00:01:14.940 --> 00:01:15.980]  是嗎

[00:01:15.980 --> 00:01:17.980]  而你朋友跟我討論的話題叫做什麼

[00:01:17.980 --> 00:01:18.540]  什麼

[00:01:18.540 --> 00:01:21.420]  他跟我討論的話題叫做

[00:01:21.420 --> 00:01:25.020]  認為亞洲大學

[00:01:25.580 --> 00:01:26.780]  四年

[00:01:26.780 --> 00:01:28.780]  換三百萬

[00:01:28.780 --> 00:01:30.780]  我想你們討論的話題

[00:01:30.780 --> 00:01:32.780]  其實我不是很重點嗎

[00:01:32.780 --> 00:01:34.780]  我只是透過這件事情來

[00:01:34.780 --> 00:01:36.780]  你請說

[00:01:36.780 --> 00:01:38.780]  所以你說我

[00:01:38.780 --> 00:01:40.780]  長期在評論很多KOL

[00:01:40.780 --> 00:01:41.580]  錯了

[00:01:41.580 --> 00:01:43.580]  你可以告訴我評論哪些KOL

[00:01:43.580 --> 00:01:45.580]  我想這個新聞上已經有了

[00:01:45.580 --> 00:01:47.580]  在你朋友之前

[00:01:47.580 --> 00:01:49.580]  在你朋友之前

[00:01:49.580 --> 00:01:51.580]  你講完了

[00:01:51.580 --> 00:01:53.580]  我方面我回應一下嗎

[00:01:53.580 --> 00:01:54.780]  可以

[00:01:54.780 --> 00:01:56.780]  我講的是說

[00:01:56.780 --> 00:01:58.780]  我是透過我朋友跟你DC++認識你的

[00:01:58.780 --> 00:02:00.780]  認識你之後才看你的台

[00:02:00.780 --> 00:02:02.780]  你的台就出現了很多評論

[00:02:02.780 --> 00:02:04.780]  其他KOL的內容

[00:02:04.780 --> 00:02:06.780]  所以我想說

[00:02:06.780 --> 00:02:08.780]  那我們講一個最直接的例子

[00:02:08.780 --> 00:02:10.780]  就是館長

[00:02:10.780 --> 00:02:12.780]  你經常對館長有很多討論

[00:02:12.780 --> 00:02:14.780]  是吧

[00:02:14.780 --> 00:02:16.780]  對

[00:02:16.780 --> 00:02:18.780]  還有誰

[00:02:18.780 --> 00:02:20.780]  太多了

[00:02:20.780 --> 00:02:22.780]  我今天就有看台

[00:02:22.780 --> 00:02:24.780]  對啊

[00:02:24.780 --> 00:02:26.780]  九合一大選手高虹安

[00:02:26.780 --> 00:02:28.780]  你知道我開始評論

[00:02:28.780 --> 00:02:30.780]  然後丁特

[00:02:30.780 --> 00:02:32.780]  其他人的時間點

[00:02:32.780 --> 00:02:34.780]  勾二

[00:02:34.780 --> 00:02:36.780]  什麼意思

[00:02:36.780 --> 00:02:38.780]  我開始評論

[00:02:38.780 --> 00:02:40.780]  KOL是在這一兩年

[00:02:40.780 --> 00:02:42.780]  不是

[00:02:42.780 --> 00:02:44.780]  你到底評論

[00:02:44.780 --> 00:02:46.780]  你到底是評論KOL在哪些時間點

[00:02:46.780 --> 00:02:48.780]  並不重要

[00:02:48.780 --> 00:02:50.780]  重點是你有沒有

[00:02:50.780 --> 00:02:52.780]  可是不是啊

[00:02:52.780 --> 00:02:54.780]  你跟我講說因為你朋友

[00:02:54.780 --> 00:02:56.780]  說了

[00:02:56.780 --> 00:02:58.780]  我就跟你說我是透過我朋友

[00:02:58.780 --> 00:03:00.780]  跟你DC+認識你這個人

[00:03:00.780 --> 00:03:02.780]  才看你的實況的

[00:03:02.780 --> 00:03:04.780]  所以跟你後來

[00:03:04.780 --> 00:03:06.780]  有沒有評論別的KOL是沒有關係

[00:03:06.780 --> 00:03:08.780]  這是兩個獨立事件

[00:03:08.780 --> 00:03:10.780]  可是你針對我

[00:03:10.780 --> 00:03:12.780]  是

[00:03:12.780 --> 00:03:14.780]  也不是最近的事情

[00:03:14.780 --> 00:03:16.780]  也不是這一兩年

[00:03:16.780 --> 00:03:18.780]  是啊就是從你開始評論這個館長啊

[00:03:18.780 --> 00:03:20.780]  講館長這些沒有道理啊

[00:03:20.780 --> 00:03:22.780]  我的看法是怎麼樣怎麼樣啊

[00:03:22.780 --> 00:03:24.780]  然後你竟然不給其他人

[00:03:24.780 --> 00:03:26.780]  同樣的回應的權利啊

[00:03:26.780 --> 00:03:28.780]  或是說別人進你的DC

[00:03:28.780 --> 00:03:30.780]  家家的時候呢

[00:03:30.780 --> 00:03:32.780]  那你這有點誤會了

[00:03:32.780 --> 00:03:34.780]  當你朋友進DC

[00:03:34.780 --> 00:03:36.780]  家家的時候

[00:03:36.780 --> 00:03:38.780]  這個部分就不要

[00:03:38.780 --> 00:03:40.780]  儀花節目

[00:03:40.780 --> 00:03:42.780]  我沒有儀花節目

[00:03:42.780 --> 00:03:44.780]  聽我講完

[00:03:44.780 --> 00:03:46.780]  謝謝帽哥送了50分訂閱

[00:03:46.780 --> 00:03:48.780]  請說

[00:03:48.780 --> 00:03:50.780]  你朋友進了我的DC家家的時候

[00:03:50.780 --> 00:03:52.780]  是因為你朋友沒有搞清楚狀況

[00:03:52.780 --> 00:03:54.780]  因為那時候

[00:03:54.780 --> 00:03:56.780]  這樣是不是

[00:03:56.780 --> 00:03:58.780]  聽我講完

[00:03:58.780 --> 00:04:00.780]  我們才剛開放去DC家家

[00:04:00.780 --> 00:04:02.780]  他進來他沒有跟我表明

[00:04:02.780 --> 00:04:04.780]  他是誰

[00:04:04.780 --> 00:04:06.780]  所以他今天跟你講他是誰

[00:04:06.780 --> 00:04:08.780]  你就不會這樣對他了嗎

[00:04:08.780 --> 00:04:10.780]  聽我講完

[00:04:10.780 --> 00:04:12.780]  所以在那個時期呢

[00:04:12.780 --> 00:04:14.780]  所有進來跟我DC家家呢

[00:04:14.780 --> 00:04:16.780]  都是觀眾

[00:04:16.780 --> 00:04:18.780]  都是進來找我吵架的人

[00:04:18.780 --> 00:04:20.780]  蛤

[00:04:20.780 --> 00:04:22.780]  一定都是進來找我吵架的人

[00:04:22.780 --> 00:04:24.780]  所以他們才會DC

[00:04:24.780 --> 00:04:26.780]  我想我朋友

[00:04:26.780 --> 00:04:28.780]  你的第一是說DC家家

[00:04:28.780 --> 00:04:30.780]  就是一定要跟你吵架就對了

[00:04:30.780 --> 00:04:32.780]  這樣講好了

[00:04:32.780 --> 00:04:34.780]  我今天跟你家家我也不想跟你吵架

[00:04:34.780 --> 00:04:36.780]  我只是想要告訴你說

[00:04:36.780 --> 00:04:38.780]  為什麼我會憑

[00:04:38.780 --> 00:04:40.780]  請說

[00:04:40.780 --> 00:04:42.780]  我還沒有講完

[00:04:42.780 --> 00:04:44.780]  你朋友進了DC家家之後

[00:04:44.780 --> 00:04:46.780]  他被我噴爛了

[00:04:46.780 --> 00:04:48.780]  可是我根本就不知道他是誰

[00:04:48.780 --> 00:04:50.780]  我只是以為他是一般觀眾

[00:04:50.780 --> 00:04:52.780]  所以如果他因為這樣子不開心

[00:04:52.780 --> 00:04:54.780]  那他應該來跟我講

[00:04:54.780 --> 00:04:56.780]  應該表明他的身份

[00:04:56.780 --> 00:04:58.780]  因為我以為他是一般觀眾

[00:04:58.780 --> 00:05:00.780]  而且那時候我DC剛開

[00:05:00.780 --> 00:05:02.780]  如果你是因為這件事情

[00:05:02.780 --> 00:05:04.780]  你想要替他報仇

[00:05:04.780 --> 00:05:06.780]  或是因為

[00:05:06.780 --> 00:05:08.780]  你們不開心想要針對我

[00:05:08.780 --> 00:05:10.780]  你可以來跟我講嗎

[00:05:10.780 --> 00:05:12.780]  我並不知道你們是誰

[00:05:12.780 --> 00:05:14.780]  好 講完了嗎

[00:05:14.780 --> 00:05:16.780]  我方便回應了嗎

[00:05:16.780 --> 00:05:18.780]  可以 我可以回應了

[00:05:18.780 --> 00:05:20.780]  我先講

[00:05:20.780 --> 00:05:22.780]  你跟他之間的恩怨

[00:05:22.780 --> 00:05:24.780]  我透過這個東西我認識了你

[00:05:24.780 --> 00:05:26.780]  所以我想要

[00:05:26.780 --> 00:05:28.780]  了解你更多

[00:05:28.780 --> 00:05:30.780]  所以我看了你很多的台

[00:05:30.780 --> 00:05:32.780]  發現你非常多在評論別人的KOL

[00:05:32.780 --> 00:05:34.780]  所以

[00:05:34.780 --> 00:05:36.780]  我覺得用一個比較好的方式

[00:05:36.780 --> 00:05:38.780]  你怎麼樣解釁別人我就怎麼樣解釁你

[00:05:38.780 --> 00:05:40.780]  這是我的初衷

[00:05:40.780 --> 00:05:42.780]  你完全跳過我後面講的這段

[00:05:42.780 --> 00:05:44.780]  去針對你跟他有什麼恩怨

[00:05:44.780 --> 00:05:46.780]  那我換一個角度

[00:05:46.780 --> 00:05:48.780]  你要回來討論原本的問題

[00:05:48.780 --> 00:05:50.780]  我就跟你討論原本的問題

[00:05:50.780 --> 00:05:52.780]  原本的問題是說你不知道他是誰

[00:05:52.780 --> 00:05:54.780]  你覺得觀眾來就是跟你吵架的

[00:05:54.780 --> 00:05:56.780]  如果你們對我不滿的話你應該直接跟我講

[00:05:56.780 --> 00:05:58.780]  那我的問題是說

[00:05:58.780 --> 00:06:00.780]  如果你今天知道他是誰了

[00:06:00.780 --> 00:06:02.780]  他是一個什麼樣的KOL

[00:06:02.780 --> 00:06:04.780]  難道你就不會用同樣語氣跟他吵架嗎

[00:06:04.780 --> 00:06:06.780]  如果是的話

[00:06:06.780 --> 00:06:08.780]  你要對觀眾就用噴的

[00:06:08.780 --> 00:06:10.780]  你對KOL就對他比較友善

[00:06:10.780 --> 00:06:12.780]  難道你是想要創造一個就是說

[00:06:12.780 --> 00:06:14.780]  你因為這個人比較大咖

[00:06:14.780 --> 00:06:16.780]  他話語權比較大

[00:06:16.780 --> 00:06:18.780]  所以你就對他比較客氣

[00:06:18.780 --> 00:06:20.780]  然後你對一般觀眾你就是用噴的

[00:06:20.780 --> 00:06:22.780]  是這個意思嗎

[00:06:22.780 --> 00:06:24.780]  那我覺得這樣子的話我就完全了解你節目內容

[00:06:24.780 --> 00:06:26.780]  完全就是以噴觀眾來賺流量

[00:06:26.780 --> 00:06:28.780]  那這樣的話我後面評論你那些東西

[00:06:28.780 --> 00:06:30.780]  完全就合理啦

[00:06:30.780 --> 00:06:32.780]  因為我的從頭到尾就是

[00:06:32.780 --> 00:06:34.780]  我希望檢視你的這個

[00:06:34.780 --> 00:06:36.780]  公眾人物的言論就像你檢視其他

[00:06:36.780 --> 00:06:38.780]  像館長丁特這些人一樣

[00:06:38.780 --> 00:06:40.780]  那如果你今天說我因為這樣

[00:06:40.780 --> 00:06:42.780]  檢視你就要來檢舉我的話我只能說

[00:06:42.780 --> 00:06:44.780]  歡迎檢舉甚至歡迎來告

[00:06:44.780 --> 00:06:46.780]  因為我只是只不過把你做過

[00:06:46.780 --> 00:06:48.780]  對別人做的事情對你做而已

[00:06:48.780 --> 00:06:50.780]  而你就這樣發出這樣子

[00:06:50.780 --> 00:06:52.780]  這麼大的反應那我只能說當初

[00:06:52.780 --> 00:06:54.780]  被你這樣攻擊的這些人也跟你

[00:06:54.780 --> 00:06:56.780]  現在一樣有一樣同樣的看法

[00:06:56.780 --> 00:06:58.780]  他們也很想檢舉你嘛

[00:06:58.780 --> 00:07:00.780]  所以我想說你今天既然你都已經是

[00:07:00.780 --> 00:07:02.780]  開廚房的人你就不要怕熱嘛

[00:07:02.780 --> 00:07:04.780]  對不對就最簡單就是你今天

[00:07:04.780 --> 00:07:06.780]  敢講別人對不對就像

[00:07:06.780 --> 00:07:08.780]  你們DC或是你本人一直說我是外遇宅

[00:07:08.780 --> 00:07:10.780]  我只能說當初外遇就是

[00:07:10.780 --> 00:07:12.780]  我自己開台告訴大家的

[00:07:12.780 --> 00:07:14.780]  要不然從來也不會知道有我外遇

[00:07:14.780 --> 00:07:16.780]  我是親自跪在那裡的

[00:07:16.780 --> 00:07:18.780]  所以你們要來講我從來沒有否認

[00:07:18.780 --> 00:07:20.780]  我也沒有說你們說我外遇

[00:07:20.780 --> 00:07:22.780]  我要檢舉你從來沒有過嘛

[00:07:22.780 --> 00:07:24.780]  所以我一直說公眾人物站在台面上

[00:07:24.780 --> 00:07:26.780]  講話就是可受公平

[00:07:26.780 --> 00:07:28.780]  那我不曉得說我對你的這些評論

[00:07:28.780 --> 00:07:30.780]  造成你哪些困擾到說

[00:07:30.780 --> 00:07:32.780]  用你的方式來對待你

[00:07:32.780 --> 00:07:34.780]  然後造成你覺得很不悅

[00:07:34.780 --> 00:07:36.780]  然後想要來檢舉我這個事情是我

[00:07:36.780 --> 00:07:38.780]  比較難以理解這部分可以回答我一下嗎

[00:07:38.780 --> 00:07:42.780]  呃其實我聽不懂你在講什麼

[00:07:42.780 --> 00:07:44.780]  OK你知道嗎

[00:07:44.780 --> 00:07:46.780]  那我重新講一次

[00:07:46.780 --> 00:07:48.780]  因為呢

[00:07:48.780 --> 00:07:50.780]  因為你在講的東西都只是

[00:07:50.780 --> 00:07:52.780]  在扣帽子啊因為為什麼

[00:07:52.780 --> 00:07:54.780]  我剛剛跟你講你朋友的例子呢

[00:07:54.780 --> 00:07:56.780]  是想要告訴你一件事情

[00:07:56.780 --> 00:07:58.780]  是想要讓你們知道一件事情

[00:07:58.780 --> 00:08:02.780]  因為呢你朋友剛進那個DC的時間點

[00:08:02.780 --> 00:08:04.780]  是為什麼我們會開放D

[00:08:04.780 --> 00:08:06.780]  觀眾進DC跟我吵架

[00:08:06.780 --> 00:08:10.780]  那是因為呢我一般以前

[00:08:10.780 --> 00:08:12.780]  全部都是看著聊天室跟觀眾吵架

[00:08:12.780 --> 00:08:14.780]  觀眾不服氣說

[00:08:14.780 --> 00:08:16.780]  那就叫我開DC

[00:08:16.780 --> 00:08:18.780]  讓他們能進來跟我對罵

[00:08:18.780 --> 00:08:20.780]  所以我就開了DC

[00:08:20.780 --> 00:08:22.780]  所以讓觀眾進來跟我對罵

[00:08:22.780 --> 00:08:24.780]  而我有說你不能檢視我嗎

[00:08:24.780 --> 00:08:26.780]  而你從頭到尾都不敢

[00:08:26.780 --> 00:08:28.780]  而你從頭到尾

[00:08:28.780 --> 00:08:30.780]  你確定你

[00:08:30.780 --> 00:08:32.780]  你有搞清楚一件事情嗎

[00:08:32.780 --> 00:08:34.780]  什麼叫做檢視什麼叫惡意攻擊嗎

[00:08:34.780 --> 00:08:36.780]  好那請問一下

[00:08:36.780 --> 00:08:38.780]  你有搞清楚這件事情嗎

[00:08:38.780 --> 00:08:40.780]  我要怎麼搞清楚

[00:08:40.780 --> 00:08:42.780]  我就是認為我在檢視你啊

[00:08:42.780 --> 00:08:44.780]  那你攻擊別的人

[00:08:44.780 --> 00:08:46.780]  你也覺得是檢視人家也覺得是

[00:08:46.780 --> 00:08:48.780]  惡意攻擊啊這種東西本來就是主觀的嘛

[00:08:48.780 --> 00:08:50.780]  沒有沒有你有點誤會了

[00:08:50.780 --> 00:08:52.780]  你的檢視就是檢視別人的檢視

[00:08:52.780 --> 00:08:54.780]  叫做惡意攻擊嗎

[00:08:54.780 --> 00:08:56.780]  你聽我講完

[00:08:56.780 --> 00:08:58.780]  請說

[00:08:58.780 --> 00:09:00.780]  你說觀眾的部分呢不好意思

[00:09:00.780 --> 00:09:02.780]  我把所有跟我進來的觀眾

[00:09:02.780 --> 00:09:04.780]  即使是我訂閱我自己

[00:09:04.780 --> 00:09:06.780]  很久的觀眾任何

[00:09:06.780 --> 00:09:08.780]  我所有的老觀眾他們只要是DC

[00:09:08.780 --> 00:09:10.780]  我都會跟他們講一件事情

[00:09:10.780 --> 00:09:12.780]  進來就是來吵架的

[00:09:12.780 --> 00:09:14.780]  請問哪裡有問題

[00:09:14.780 --> 00:09:16.780]  哪裡有問題

[00:09:16.780 --> 00:09:18.780]  進來就是來吵架的請問

[00:09:18.780 --> 00:09:20.780]  進來就是來吵架的

[00:09:20.780 --> 00:09:22.780]  這件事情跟我有什麼關係

[00:09:22.780 --> 00:09:24.780]  你為什麼要提出來

[00:09:24.780 --> 00:09:26.780]  你不是說我去噴觀眾來製造流量嗎

[00:09:26.780 --> 00:09:28.780]  說我

[00:09:28.780 --> 00:09:30.780]  受不起別人的警諒

[00:09:30.780 --> 00:09:32.780]  所以我噴觀眾這件事情

[00:09:32.780 --> 00:09:34.780]  所以你來檢驗我嗎

[00:09:34.780 --> 00:09:36.780]  那相同道理嘛

[00:09:36.780 --> 00:09:38.780]  我一樣檢驗你的直播啊

[00:09:38.780 --> 00:09:40.780]  你可以檢驗

[00:09:40.780 --> 00:09:42.780]  那問題是說

[00:09:42.780 --> 00:09:44.780]  重點是你剛剛這邊

[00:09:44.780 --> 00:09:46.780]  你不就造謠我說

[00:09:46.780 --> 00:09:48.780]  我噴觀眾來製造流量嗎

[00:09:48.780 --> 00:09:50.780]  你剛剛承認說你

[00:09:50.780 --> 00:09:52.780]  你承認說我

[00:09:52.780 --> 00:09:54.780]  是因為我用我的聲量

[00:09:54.780 --> 00:09:56.780]  來壓過觀眾的聲量嗎

[00:09:56.780 --> 00:09:58.780]  不是不是我是說音量

[00:09:58.780 --> 00:10:00.780]  你剛剛這樣講你

[00:10:00.780 --> 00:10:02.780]  你剛剛講的聲量

[00:10:02.780 --> 00:10:04.780]  你剛剛講的流量

[00:10:04.780 --> 00:10:06.780]  請問你可以把我講的那句話

[00:10:06.780 --> 00:10:08.780]  完整的陳述出來

[00:10:08.780 --> 00:10:10.780]  因為我現在有點難理解

[00:10:10.780 --> 00:10:12.780]  你到底講的是哪一part

[00:10:12.780 --> 00:10:14.780]  這就是你剛剛講的那一part

[00:10:14.780 --> 00:10:16.780]  你可不可以完整的論述出那一句

[00:10:16.780 --> 00:10:18.780]  你剛剛不是講說

[00:10:18.780 --> 00:10:20.780]  我用我自己的聲量

[00:10:20.780 --> 00:10:22.780]  去壓住觀眾

[00:10:22.780 --> 00:10:24.780]  就覺得我以大欺小

[00:10:24.780 --> 00:10:26.780]  我沒有講這句話

[00:10:26.780 --> 00:10:28.780]  你沒有講這句話

[00:10:28.780 --> 00:10:30.780]  我重複一次給你聽

[00:10:30.780 --> 00:10:32.780]  請讓我重複一次

[00:10:32.780 --> 00:10:34.780]  我的意思

[00:10:34.780 --> 00:10:36.780]  我的邏輯應該還蠻清楚的

[00:10:36.780 --> 00:10:38.780]  我就說當你今天

[00:10:38.780 --> 00:10:40.780]  如果知道這個人是KOL

[00:10:40.780 --> 00:10:42.780]  你難道就會對他比較客氣嗎

[00:10:42.780 --> 00:10:44.780]  當你如果知道他是觀眾

[00:10:44.780 --> 00:10:46.780]  你就會噴爛嗎

[00:10:46.780 --> 00:10:48.780]  聽聽

[00:10:48.780 --> 00:10:50.780]  我一般都是跟人家講

[00:10:50.780 --> 00:10:52.780]  我從頭到尾都跟人家講

[00:10:52.780 --> 00:10:54.780]  聽我講完

[00:10:54.780 --> 00:10:56.780]  聽我講完

[00:10:56.780 --> 00:10:58.780]  我跟你講

[00:10:58.780 --> 00:11:00.780]  這不是差不差別待遇的問題

[00:11:00.780 --> 00:11:02.780]  因為

[00:11:02.780 --> 00:11:04.780]  首先如果你進DC

[00:11:04.780 --> 00:11:06.780]  我要搞清楚你到底是為什麼進DC

[00:11:06.780 --> 00:11:08.780]  一般來講

[00:11:08.780 --> 00:11:10.780]  會進DC的都是我自己的觀眾

[00:11:10.780 --> 00:11:12.780]  這跟差不差別待遇

[00:11:12.780 --> 00:11:14.780]  有任何關係嗎

[00:11:14.780 --> 00:11:16.780]  我就跟你講如果你進來表明你的身份

[00:11:16.780 --> 00:11:18.780]  我一定不會噴爛你

[00:11:18.780 --> 00:11:20.780]  這句話

[00:11:20.780 --> 00:11:22.780]  你要不要讓我講

[00:11:22.780 --> 00:11:24.780]  這句話我不只講過一次

[00:11:24.780 --> 00:11:26.780]  我不只講過一次

[00:11:26.780 --> 00:11:28.780]  所以如果進來

[00:11:28.780 --> 00:11:30.780]  你是要理性評論的

[00:11:30.780 --> 00:11:32.780]  我一定跟你理性評論

[00:11:32.780 --> 00:11:34.780]  但是如果你是進來吵架的

[00:11:34.780 --> 00:11:36.780]  我一定跟你吵架

[00:11:36.780 --> 00:11:38.780]  我懂了你的意思是說前面

[00:11:38.780 --> 00:11:40.780]  我可以講了方便我講嗎

[00:11:40.780 --> 00:11:42.780]  我講我可以回應了嗎

[00:11:42.780 --> 00:11:44.780]  前面我沒有聽錯的話

[00:11:44.780 --> 00:11:46.780]  你剛剛是不是說

[00:11:46.780 --> 00:11:48.780]  所有觀眾都知道

[00:11:48.780 --> 00:11:50.780]  包括你多次都講

[00:11:50.780 --> 00:11:52.780]  叫做進來DC就是來吵架的

[00:11:52.780 --> 00:11:54.780]  那你剛剛在我講話前

[00:11:54.780 --> 00:11:56.780]  最後一句是不是說

[00:11:56.780 --> 00:11:58.780]  如果你要理性討論我就跟你理性討論

[00:11:58.780 --> 00:12:00.780]  你要吵架我就跟你吵架

[00:12:00.780 --> 00:12:02.780]  所以請問一下你的DC到底是理性討論的空間

[00:12:02.780 --> 00:12:04.780]  還是就是來吵架的

[00:12:04.780 --> 00:12:06.780]  這邊我會跟你講

[00:12:06.780 --> 00:12:08.780]  在這個DC之前

[00:12:08.780 --> 00:12:10.780]  剛開始的時候

[00:12:10.780 --> 00:12:12.780]  所有觀眾進來都是跟我吵架的

[00:12:12.780 --> 00:12:14.780]  但是漸漸的

[00:12:14.780 --> 00:12:16.780]  你就不聽我講完嗎

[00:12:16.780 --> 00:12:18.780]  漸漸的後面有觀眾進來看

[00:12:18.780 --> 00:12:20.780]  後面有觀眾進來

[00:12:20.780 --> 00:12:22.780]  他是願意跟我慢慢討論的

[00:12:22.780 --> 00:12:24.780]  我也願意跟他好好的討論

[00:12:24.780 --> 00:12:26.780]  所以基本上

[00:12:26.780 --> 00:12:28.780]  得看你的訴求

[00:12:28.780 --> 00:12:30.780]  我會滿足你的條件

[00:12:30.780 --> 00:12:32.780]  所以你的意思是說

[00:12:32.780 --> 00:12:34.780]  有人要跟你理性討論你就理性討論

[00:12:34.780 --> 00:12:36.780]  有人要跟你吵架你跟他吵架

[00:12:36.780 --> 00:12:38.780]  是這樣嗎

[00:12:38.780 --> 00:12:40.780]  你不是說

[00:12:40.780 --> 00:12:42.780]  我不知道這個人我的朋友是誰

[00:12:42.780 --> 00:12:44.780]  你不知道他的身份是什麼

[00:12:44.780 --> 00:12:46.780]  請問一下你為什麼要特別提這兩句

[00:12:46.780 --> 00:12:50.780]  因為

[00:12:50.780 --> 00:12:52.780]  我剛才在講這件事情的

[00:12:52.780 --> 00:12:54.780]  一開始我不是有講了嗎

[00:12:54.780 --> 00:12:56.780]  剛開始的時候

[00:12:56.780 --> 00:12:58.780]  觀眾進來都是來跟我吵架

[00:12:58.780 --> 00:13:00.780]  為什麼這件事情還要再重複一次

[00:13:00.780 --> 00:13:02.780]  這件事情我已經講了三次了

[00:13:02.780 --> 00:13:04.780]  所以我剛才在跟你解釋這件事情

[00:13:04.780 --> 00:13:06.780]  你沒有仔細聽

[00:13:06.780 --> 00:13:08.780]  你都一直在挑後面

[00:13:08.780 --> 00:13:10.780]  我剛才就跟你解釋這件事情

[00:13:10.780 --> 00:13:12.780]  你想解釋什麼問題我們就針對你想解釋的問題來回答

[00:13:12.780 --> 00:13:14.780]  聽我講完

[00:13:14.780 --> 00:13:16.780]  聽我講完

[00:13:16.780 --> 00:13:18.780]  我剛才在解釋這件事情的時候

[00:13:18.780 --> 00:13:20.780]  你跟我講說我在偷換概念

[00:13:20.780 --> 00:13:22.780]  或是我在講前面的事情

[00:13:22.780 --> 00:13:24.780]  不是在講後面的事情

[00:13:24.780 --> 00:13:26.780]  我就是在跟你解釋這件事情

[00:13:26.780 --> 00:13:28.780]  當初觀眾

[00:13:28.780 --> 00:13:30.780]  會跟我進DC

[00:13:30.780 --> 00:13:32.780]  絕大多數都是來

[00:13:32.780 --> 00:13:34.780]  找我吵架的

[00:13:34.780 --> 00:13:36.780]  好那我們這樣理性一下

[00:13:36.780 --> 00:13:38.780]  你朋友進來

[00:13:38.780 --> 00:13:40.780]  聽我講完

[00:13:40.780 --> 00:13:42.780]  你朋友進來這邊

[00:13:42.780 --> 00:13:44.780]  第一我不知道他是什麼身份

[00:13:44.780 --> 00:13:46.780]  他沒有跟我表明他是誰誰誰

[00:13:46.780 --> 00:13:50.780]  所以當初一貫進來

[00:13:50.780 --> 00:13:52.780]  觀眾就是跟我吵架

[00:13:52.780 --> 00:13:54.780]  而且你的朋友那邊跟我講了一件事情

[00:13:54.780 --> 00:13:56.780]  他說我認為我設定的題目不對

[00:13:56.780 --> 00:13:58.780]  我按照他設定的題目

[00:13:58.780 --> 00:14:00.780]  然後我就把他噴了一頓

[00:14:00.780 --> 00:14:02.780]  而我噴他的東西

[00:14:02.780 --> 00:14:04.780]  並不是我罵罵他

[00:14:04.780 --> 00:14:06.780]  是在他這個題目他自己被我洗臉了

[00:14:06.780 --> 00:14:08.780]  他不開心大概就是這樣子

[00:14:08.780 --> 00:14:10.780]  好那這題我們可以聊完了

[00:14:10.780 --> 00:14:12.780]  你應該也解釋清楚了

[00:14:12.780 --> 00:14:14.780]  不是你懂了嗎

[00:14:14.780 --> 00:14:16.780]  所以還要前因後果吧

[00:14:16.780 --> 00:14:18.780]  你懂了嗎

[00:14:18.780 --> 00:14:20.780]  因為我不想要糾結在這題

[00:14:20.780 --> 00:14:22.780]  因為跟我本人的關係不大

[00:14:22.780 --> 00:14:24.780]  我們應該回到核心問題吧

[00:14:24.780 --> 00:14:26.780]  可是因為你剛剛又跳回剛剛那邊

[00:14:26.780 --> 00:14:28.780]  因為你想聊我就跟你聊

[00:14:28.780 --> 00:14:30.780]  不是我沒有在聊這件事情

[00:14:30.780 --> 00:14:32.780]  那我們就跳過了

[00:14:32.780 --> 00:14:34.780]  你沒有想聊的話我們就跳過

[00:14:34.780 --> 00:14:36.780]  你剛剛不是在問我

[00:14:36.780 --> 00:14:38.780]  針對我一個問題嗎

[00:14:38.780 --> 00:14:40.780]  你問我跟觀眾是不是有差別

[00:14:40.780 --> 00:14:42.780]  你可不可以完整的講出我

[00:14:42.780 --> 00:14:44.780]  你如果知道這個人是Kel

[00:14:44.780 --> 00:14:46.780]  我剛剛問你不回答你現在想回答了嗎

[00:14:46.780 --> 00:14:48.780]  沒有沒有

[00:14:48.780 --> 00:14:50.780]  我剛剛講的你朋友那件事情

[00:14:50.780 --> 00:14:52.780]  就是回答你這個題目你聽不懂嗎

[00:14:52.780 --> 00:14:54.780]  我沒有聽到有正面的回答

[00:14:54.780 --> 00:14:56.780]  因為是繞了一圈

[00:14:56.780 --> 00:14:58.780]  你方便方便直接回答我一頁手弄

[00:14:58.780 --> 00:15:00.780]  可不可以針對問題回答就好

[00:15:00.780 --> 00:15:02.780]  你是不是針對Kel或是一般觀眾

[00:15:02.780 --> 00:15:04.780]  有差別待遇嗎

[00:15:04.780 --> 00:15:06.780]  肯定有啊

[00:15:06.780 --> 00:15:08.780]  那我懂了嘛

[00:15:08.780 --> 00:15:10.780]  所以以後就是稍微是個咖的人

[00:15:10.780 --> 00:15:12.780]  進到你的DC去就要自爆名號

[00:15:12.780 --> 00:15:14.780]  以免你誤傷嘛

[00:15:14.780 --> 00:15:16.780]  不是不是

[00:15:16.780 --> 00:15:18.780]  我剛剛這邊前面也跟你講了

[00:15:18.780 --> 00:15:20.780]  進來的目的是什麼

[00:15:20.780 --> 00:15:22.780]  什麼 吵架嗎

[00:15:22.780 --> 00:15:24.780]  可是你也就說他願意理性討論

[00:15:24.780 --> 00:15:26.780]  不是

[00:15:26.780 --> 00:15:28.780]  這兩個選項

[00:15:28.780 --> 00:15:30.780]  進來的目的不一樣

[00:15:30.780 --> 00:15:32.780]  所以就會不一樣啊

[00:15:32.780 --> 00:15:34.780]  我不是這樣講的嗎

[00:15:34.780 --> 00:15:36.780]  為什麼這件事情我講了三次你還在

[00:15:36.780 --> 00:15:38.780]  我認同啊

[00:15:38.780 --> 00:15:40.780]  我只是好奇

[00:15:40.780 --> 00:15:42.780]  你會不會對稍微有聲量的人

[00:15:42.780 --> 00:15:44.780]  跟一般觀眾有差別待遇

[00:15:44.780 --> 00:15:46.780]  你說有那我就接受啦

[00:15:46.780 --> 00:15:48.780]  我們回到何時

[00:15:48.780 --> 00:15:50.780]  如果你表明身份

[00:15:50.780 --> 00:15:52.780]  你要告訴我你是誰

[00:15:52.780 --> 00:15:54.780]  如果你怕人家噴你

[00:15:54.780 --> 00:15:56.780]  我一定不噴你啊

[00:15:56.780 --> 00:15:58.780]  即使是觀眾你還跟我講說我撥理性

[00:15:58.780 --> 00:16:00.780]  你不要噴我 我也不會噴你啊

[00:16:00.780 --> 00:16:02.780]  你懂意思是說要進來說我不想被噴

[00:16:02.780 --> 00:16:04.780]  但是我想理性討論可不可以

[00:16:04.780 --> 00:16:06.780]  你就會同意

[00:16:06.780 --> 00:16:08.780]  但這個問題跟我剛剛的問題是不同的問題啊

[00:16:08.780 --> 00:16:10.780]  我就是說這個人如果是K20

[00:16:10.780 --> 00:16:12.780]  或是他是一般觀眾

[00:16:12.780 --> 00:16:14.780]  而不是這個人有沒有表明他想不想被噴

[00:16:14.780 --> 00:16:16.780]  這是兩個完全不同的問題啊

[00:16:16.780 --> 00:16:18.780]  所以你沒有回答我原本的問題啊

[00:16:18.780 --> 00:16:20.780]  有

[00:16:20.780 --> 00:16:22.780]  如果這個K20進來跟我講他進來跟我吵架

[00:16:22.780 --> 00:16:24.780]  我一定跟他吵架啊

[00:16:24.780 --> 00:16:26.780]  所以我的問題是

[00:16:26.780 --> 00:16:28.780]  他先釋出了善意

[00:16:28.780 --> 00:16:30.780]  他跟我講說我是個實況主我是進來跟你談的

[00:16:30.780 --> 00:16:32.780]  我一定跟你好好談啊

[00:16:32.780 --> 00:16:34.780]  所以意思就是說你沒有回答

[00:16:34.780 --> 00:16:36.780]  有關於他是不是K20會有差別待遇的問題

[00:16:36.780 --> 00:16:38.780]  我回答啦

[00:16:38.780 --> 00:16:40.780]  我不是回答了嗎

[00:16:40.780 --> 00:16:42.780]  問題就出在說你進來跟我講啊

[00:16:42.780 --> 00:16:44.780]  什麼意思

[00:16:44.780 --> 00:16:46.780]  就是你有沒有跟我表達你到底是誰嘛

[00:16:46.780 --> 00:16:48.780]  你又表達是誰

[00:16:48.780 --> 00:16:50.780]  那我就再問你同一個問題

[00:16:50.780 --> 00:16:52.780]  KOL跟一般觀眾有差別待遇嗎

[00:16:52.780 --> 00:16:56.780]  你所謂的差別待遇什麼叫差別待遇

[00:16:56.780 --> 00:16:58.780]  我就問你會不會態度上不一樣

[00:16:58.780 --> 00:17:00.780]  或是任何的差別都算嘛

[00:17:00.780 --> 00:17:02.780]  那你覺得我對你的態度

[00:17:02.780 --> 00:17:04.780]  跟其他觀眾的態度會一樣嗎

[00:17:04.780 --> 00:17:06.780]  我覺得你對我的態度特別不好啊

[00:17:06.780 --> 00:17:08.780]  沒有我對所有的人

[00:17:08.780 --> 00:17:10.780]  的態度都是一樣啊

[00:17:10.780 --> 00:17:12.780]  那你會去檢舉威脅說要檢舉誰嗎

[00:17:12.780 --> 00:17:14.780]  我沒有

[00:17:14.780 --> 00:17:16.780]  那是因為呢你無端的

[00:17:16.780 --> 00:17:18.780]  無端嗎你無端的攻擊我啊

[00:17:18.780 --> 00:17:20.780]  不然你跟我講

[00:17:20.780 --> 00:17:22.780]  那我想問一下你攻擊這個

[00:17:22.780 --> 00:17:24.780]  你不要講攻擊你檢討

[00:17:24.780 --> 00:17:26.780]  館長檢討丁特

[00:17:26.780 --> 00:17:28.780]  是有端嗎你們有私怨嗎

[00:17:28.780 --> 00:17:30.780]  欸我有檢討丁特什麼嗎

[00:17:30.780 --> 00:17:32.780]  沒有啦

[00:17:32.780 --> 00:17:34.780]  你開台沒有講過丁特嗎

[00:17:34.780 --> 00:17:36.780]  來聊天室

[00:17:36.780 --> 00:17:38.780]  我跟你講不好意思

[00:17:38.780 --> 00:17:40.780]  我從頭到尾以前我都是在替丁特

[00:17:40.780 --> 00:17:42.780]  護航的丁特說他

[00:17:42.780 --> 00:17:44.780]  人家說丁特墮胎

[00:17:44.780 --> 00:17:46.780]  我長期以來我都認為他墮胎沒問題

[00:17:46.780 --> 00:17:48.780]  所以你從來沒有檢討過他嗎

[00:17:48.780 --> 00:17:50.780]  沒有我沒有檢討過

[00:17:50.780 --> 00:17:52.780]  我檢討過他什麼事情

[00:17:52.780 --> 00:17:54.780]  你講一個嘛

[00:17:54.780 --> 00:17:56.780]  那因為這個事情跟我無關

[00:17:56.780 --> 00:17:58.780]  不是你講的嘛

[00:17:58.780 --> 00:18:00.780]  不是跟你無關你提出來說

[00:18:00.780 --> 00:18:02.780]  我檢討丁特請你告訴我我檢討丁特哪一件事情

[00:18:02.780 --> 00:18:04.780]  這是你提出來的

[00:18:04.780 --> 00:18:06.780]  你說你長期看我台你知道你告訴我

[00:18:06.780 --> 00:18:08.780]  好那我想問你

[00:18:08.780 --> 00:18:10.780]  有沒有講說丁特醜化

[00:18:10.780 --> 00:18:12.780]  這件事情

[00:18:12.780 --> 00:18:14.780]  什麼叫丁特醜化你這個東西太廣泛

[00:18:14.780 --> 00:18:16.780]  什麼東西醜化了什麼

[00:18:16.780 --> 00:18:20.780]  就是你上個電競協會的事件

[00:18:20.780 --> 00:18:22.780]  我想請問一下

[00:18:22.780 --> 00:18:24.780]  你對丁特跟電視節目副理事長之間的爭論

[00:18:24.780 --> 00:18:26.780]  你現在的看法跟你當初有不一樣嗎

[00:18:26.780 --> 00:18:28.780]  你現在的看法跟你當初有不一樣嗎

[00:18:28.780 --> 00:18:30.780]  你現在的看法跟你當初有不一樣嗎

[00:18:30.780 --> 00:18:32.780]  電競協會一模一樣

[00:18:32.780 --> 00:18:34.780]  那你可以重複一下你對丁特還有副理事長之間的爭端

[00:18:34.780 --> 00:18:36.780]  那你可以重複一下你對丁特還有副理事長之間的爭端

[00:18:36.780 --> 00:18:38.780]  你當初提出的看法是什麼

[00:18:38.780 --> 00:18:40.780]  你可以再重複一次嗎

[00:18:40.780 --> 00:18:42.780]  所以我現在回答你的問題是

[00:18:42.780 --> 00:18:44.780]  我對他們的看法還是

[00:18:44.780 --> 00:18:46.780]  你說我去醜化丁特這件事情

[00:18:46.780 --> 00:18:48.780]  我沒有說你醜化丁特

[00:18:48.780 --> 00:18:50.780]  你說我去攻擊他

[00:18:50.780 --> 00:18:52.780]  你說我去批評他

[00:18:52.780 --> 00:18:54.780]  對啊你沒有批評

[00:18:54.780 --> 00:18:56.780]  所以你要告訴我嘛

[00:18:56.780 --> 00:18:58.780]  我就想啦你就評論這個

[00:18:58.780 --> 00:19:00.780]  不是不是不是

[00:19:00.780 --> 00:19:02.780]  我今天

[00:19:02.780 --> 00:19:04.780]  你講

[00:19:04.780 --> 00:19:06.780]  針對你在評論丁特跟電競協會副理事長之間的問題

[00:19:06.780 --> 00:19:08.780]  針對你在評論丁特跟電競協會副理事長之間的問題

[00:19:08.780 --> 00:19:10.780]  針對你在評論丁特跟電競協會副理事長之間的問題

[00:19:10.780 --> 00:19:12.780]  我已經辭職過這個

[00:19:12.780 --> 00:19:14.780]  丁特醜化電競相關的活動的問題

[00:19:14.780 --> 00:19:16.780]  我已經辭職過電競相關的活動的問題

[00:19:16.780 --> 00:19:18.780]  那你在開台的時候

[00:19:18.780 --> 00:19:20.780]  細節我都忘記了

[00:19:20.780 --> 00:19:22.780]  但是當天我有看

[00:19:22.780 --> 00:19:24.780]  那我認為你是有評論丁特

[00:19:24.780 --> 00:19:26.780]  認為他哪些話講的不對嗎

[00:19:26.780 --> 00:19:28.780]  還是沒有

[00:19:28.780 --> 00:19:30.780]  有嗎

[00:19:30.780 --> 00:19:32.780]  我跟你講我講事情哪些事情

[00:19:32.780 --> 00:19:34.780]  你覺得我講的不對

[00:19:34.780 --> 00:19:36.780]  我說你有沒有覺得丁特哪些話講的不對

[00:19:36.780 --> 00:19:38.780]  我說我太近了

[00:19:38.780 --> 00:19:40.780]  你應該要知道你不是說我批評丁特

[00:19:40.780 --> 00:19:42.780]  應該是由你來告訴我

[00:19:42.780 --> 00:19:44.780]  怎麼會是由我去

[00:19:44.780 --> 00:19:46.780]  OKOK

[00:19:46.780 --> 00:19:48.780]  你既然這麼想討論這個問題

[00:19:48.780 --> 00:19:50.780]  我們回到一個

[00:19:50.780 --> 00:19:52.780]  是你提出來的

[00:19:52.780 --> 00:19:54.780]  那這樣好了

[00:19:54.780 --> 00:19:56.780]  因為丁特那個事情最近才發生

[00:19:56.780 --> 00:19:58.780]  然後那個事件並不是很大

[00:19:58.780 --> 00:20:00.780]  並不是所有人都了解

[00:20:00.780 --> 00:20:02.780]  我們回到一個大家比較知道的是

[00:20:02.780 --> 00:20:04.780]  你應該

[00:20:04.780 --> 00:20:06.780]  要這一件事情

[00:20:06.780 --> 00:20:08.780]  為什麼我不只講這個

[00:20:08.780 --> 00:20:10.780]  你檢討別的

[00:20:10.780 --> 00:20:12.780]  這個KOL的

[00:20:12.780 --> 00:20:14.780]  頻率太高

[00:20:14.780 --> 00:20:16.780]  那你對館長呢

[00:20:16.780 --> 00:20:18.780]  那你對館長呢

[00:20:18.780 --> 00:20:20.780]  我當然有啊

[00:20:20.780 --> 00:20:22.780]  可是我檢討丁特什麼

[00:20:22.780 --> 00:20:24.780]  那我們回到KOL

[00:20:24.780 --> 00:20:26.780]  是否可以互相檢討

[00:20:26.780 --> 00:20:28.780]  我們回到KOL

[00:20:28.780 --> 00:20:30.780]  是否可以互相檢討這個題目上面

[00:20:30.780 --> 00:20:32.780]  這才是問題的核心

[00:20:32.780 --> 00:20:34.780]  是吧

[00:20:34.780 --> 00:20:36.780]  對啊對啊

[00:20:36.780 --> 00:20:38.780]  你覺得我不能檢討你

[00:20:38.780 --> 00:20:40.780]  你要檢舉我嗎

[00:20:40.780 --> 00:20:42.780]  那為什麼你可以檢舉館長

[00:20:42.780 --> 00:20:44.780]  我就問你這一題就好了

[00:20:44.780 --> 00:20:46.780]  聽我講嘛

[00:20:46.780 --> 00:20:48.780]  你說看KY的

[00:20:48.780 --> 00:20:50.780]  歐台很噁心

[00:20:50.780 --> 00:20:52.780]  請問一下

[00:20:52.780 --> 00:20:54.780]  這是我的原話嗎

[00:20:54.780 --> 00:20:56.780]  我不知道

[00:20:56.780 --> 00:20:58.780]  那我想問一下

[00:20:58.780 --> 00:21:00.780]  有多少人覺得看KY

[00:21:00.780 --> 00:21:02.780]  會噁心想吐

[00:21:02.780 --> 00:21:04.780]  有多少人跟我一樣的感受

[00:21:04.780 --> 00:21:06.780]  然後你叫觀眾

[00:21:06.780 --> 00:21:08.780]  來我這邊

[00:21:08.780 --> 00:21:10.780]  跟我battle然後你donate他

[00:21:10.780 --> 00:21:12.780]  我叫觀眾

[00:21:12.780 --> 00:21:14.780]  哪一個觀眾

[00:21:14.780 --> 00:21:16.780]  你應該記得吧你忘記了嗎

[00:21:16.780 --> 00:21:18.780]  誰

[00:21:18.780 --> 00:21:20.780]  那個叫什麼

[00:21:20.780 --> 00:21:22.780]  我叫哪一個觀眾

[00:21:22.780 --> 00:21:24.780]  那個

[00:21:24.780 --> 00:21:26.780]  那個啊愣你皮

[00:21:26.780 --> 00:21:28.780]  愣你皮是觀眾

[00:21:28.780 --> 00:21:30.780]  人家是實況主啊

[00:21:30.780 --> 00:21:32.780]  我說他不是你觀眾

[00:21:32.780 --> 00:21:34.780]  他都說他是你觀眾啊

[00:21:34.780 --> 00:21:36.780]  他有看我台嗎

[00:21:36.780 --> 00:21:38.780]  他有在聊天室嗎

[00:21:38.780 --> 00:21:40.780]  我看他的台啊

[00:21:40.780 --> 00:21:42.780]  他是我在看的實況主啊

[00:21:42.780 --> 00:21:44.780]  我有donate他我講什麼

[00:21:44.780 --> 00:21:46.780]  所以你有沒有講

[00:21:46.780 --> 00:21:48.780]  叫他來找我battle

[00:21:48.780 --> 00:21:50.780]  有啊我也要找你battle啊

[00:21:50.780 --> 00:21:52.780]  所以你現在來了

[00:21:52.780 --> 00:21:54.780]  這有什麼問題嗎

[00:21:54.780 --> 00:21:56.780]  我可以donate

[00:21:56.780 --> 00:21:58.780]  你啊你有需要的話

[00:21:58.780 --> 00:22:00.780]  對所以你認為

[00:22:00.780 --> 00:22:02.780]  這種行為是ok的嗎

[00:22:02.780 --> 00:22:04.780]  我叫別的觀眾去加入你的DCP

[00:22:04.780 --> 00:22:06.780]  他不是幫你炒熱氣氛嗎

[00:22:06.780 --> 00:22:08.780]  你不是說他是實況主嗎

[00:22:08.780 --> 00:22:10.780]  對啊那我叫其他實況主去加入你的DCP

[00:22:10.780 --> 00:22:12.780]  不是幫助你嗎

[00:22:12.780 --> 00:22:14.780]  你不是說想吵架就吵架嗎

[00:22:14.780 --> 00:22:16.780]  現在哪裡有問題了

[00:22:16.780 --> 00:22:18.780]  所以你這個就是在針對我

[00:22:18.780 --> 00:22:20.780]  不是嗎你就是在攻擊我

[00:22:20.780 --> 00:22:22.780]  我從頭到尾都是在檢討你啊

[00:22:22.780 --> 00:22:24.780]  我有說過我沒有在檢討你嗎

[00:22:24.780 --> 00:22:26.780]  我開台每次講到你我都是針對你的內容啊

[00:22:26.780 --> 00:22:28.780]  針對你開台的內容啊

[00:22:28.780 --> 00:22:30.780]  你是針對我的內容嗎

[00:22:30.780 --> 00:22:32.780]  針對你本人跟你的內容啊

[00:22:32.780 --> 00:22:34.780]  你可以評論我的內容

[00:22:34.780 --> 00:22:36.780]  但是我會叫人家去攻擊你嗎

[00:22:36.780 --> 00:22:38.780]  會啊你不是也會嗎

[00:22:38.780 --> 00:22:40.780]  我會因為你有外遇這件事去攻擊你嗎

[00:22:40.780 --> 00:22:42.780]  那所以你現在提到什麼意思

[00:22:42.780 --> 00:22:44.780]  我接受啊謝謝你攻擊我啊

[00:22:44.780 --> 00:22:46.780]  謝謝你我外遇

[00:22:46.780 --> 00:22:48.780]  對我該死啊我對不起我太太啊

[00:22:48.780 --> 00:22:50.780]  但我對不起你嗎

[00:22:50.780 --> 00:22:52.780]  所以我有對不起你嗎

[00:22:52.780 --> 00:22:54.780]  不是啊我這只是在講說

[00:22:54.780 --> 00:22:56.780]  你身為一個公眾人物你本來就應該

[00:22:56.780 --> 00:22:58.780]  接受我的評論嘛

[00:22:58.780 --> 00:23:00.780]  我沒有說不接受啊

[00:23:00.780 --> 00:23:02.780]  那OK啊那你為什麼說要檢舉我

[00:23:02.780 --> 00:23:04.780]  我能接受你的評論

[00:23:04.780 --> 00:23:06.780]  那你可不可以直接告我告我比較快啊

[00:23:06.780 --> 00:23:08.780]  對啊像加重回放啊

[00:23:08.780 --> 00:23:10.780]  什麼叫我沒有叫人家來攻擊你吧

[00:23:10.780 --> 00:23:12.780]  我叫人家來跟你DC加加

[00:23:12.780 --> 00:23:14.780]  叫攻擊你喔跟你DC加加

[00:23:14.780 --> 00:23:16.780]  就叫攻擊你啊

[00:23:16.780 --> 00:23:18.780]  你去我就斗內你不是嗎

[00:23:18.780 --> 00:23:20.780]  你去我就斗內你怎麼了嗎

[00:23:20.780 --> 00:23:22.780]  我還叫人家女實況主去肉市民家

[00:23:22.780 --> 00:23:24.780]  加七千塊這種事我每天在幹

[00:23:24.780 --> 00:23:26.780]  所以我是女實況主嗎

[00:23:26.780 --> 00:23:28.780]  你不是說你只評論我嗎

[00:23:28.780 --> 00:23:30.780]  你不是說你只評論我嗎

[00:23:30.780 --> 00:23:32.780]  其實評論你我也太可悲了吧

[00:23:32.780 --> 00:23:34.780]  我評論人太多了好不好

[00:23:34.780 --> 00:23:36.780]  我只是針對評論你大家很有反應

[00:23:36.780 --> 00:23:38.780]  我突然覺得說欸怎麼這麼多人

[00:23:38.780 --> 00:23:40.780]  跟我同樣的感覺

[00:23:40.780 --> 00:23:42.780]  整個遊戲當然都130個人

[00:23:42.780 --> 00:23:44.780]  全部都是我們水軍刷的嗎

[00:23:44.780 --> 00:23:46.780]  難道是真的做我這種情況

[00:23:46.780 --> 00:23:48.780]  我這種心聲不是只有我自己

[00:23:48.780 --> 00:23:50.780]  這樣認為原來廣大的觀眾

[00:23:50.780 --> 00:23:52.780]  我也同樣認同這個時候呢

[00:23:52.780 --> 00:23:54.780]  如果KY願意跟我來DC連麥一下

[00:23:54.780 --> 00:23:56.780]  那就是一個大家最皆大歡喜的狀況

[00:23:56.780 --> 00:23:58.780]  所以才會精彩的今天晚上的局面

[00:23:58.780 --> 00:24:00.780]  不是嗎

[00:24:00.780 --> 00:24:02.780]  我能接受人家評論

[00:24:02.780 --> 00:24:04.780]  可以嗎可以嗎

[00:24:04.780 --> 00:24:06.780]  那你會希望

[00:24:06.780 --> 00:24:08.780]  攻擊我

[00:24:08.780 --> 00:24:10.780]  什麼叫找人來攻擊你

[00:24:10.780 --> 00:24:12.780]  加入你的DC加就叫攻擊你

[00:24:12.780 --> 00:24:14.780]  是嗎所以意思是說

[00:24:14.780 --> 00:24:16.780]  你給他錢你給他錢

[00:24:16.780 --> 00:24:18.780]  我給他錢怎麼了

[00:24:18.780 --> 00:24:20.780]  我還給很多人錢欸

[00:24:20.780 --> 00:24:22.780]  我也可以給你錢啊

[00:24:22.780 --> 00:24:24.780]  叫做什麼

[00:24:24.780 --> 00:24:30.780]  我叫他去加入你的DC加加

[00:24:30.780 --> 00:24:32.780]  然後我斗內他

[00:24:32.780 --> 00:24:42.780]  喔我懂意思

[00:24:42.780 --> 00:24:44.780]  你的意思是說我不可以

[00:24:44.780 --> 00:24:46.780]  斗內一個實況主說

[00:24:46.780 --> 00:24:48.780]  我去KYO的DC加加

[00:24:48.780 --> 00:24:50.780]  只要發生這種行為

[00:24:50.780 --> 00:24:52.780]  就叫說別人攻擊KYO

[00:24:52.780 --> 00:24:54.780]  是不是這個意思嗎

[00:24:54.780 --> 00:24:56.780]  啊不然你認為你的行為

[00:24:56.780 --> 00:24:58.780]  你叫合理

[00:24:58.780 --> 00:25:00.780]  你覺得是這樣子的話

[00:25:00.780 --> 00:25:02.780]  那就可受公平啊

[00:25:02.780 --> 00:25:04.780]  那就問觀眾啊問問廣大

[00:25:04.780 --> 00:25:06.780]  現在有八千多個人你們怎麼看

[00:25:06.780 --> 00:25:08.780]  覺得我說的有理還是KYO說的合理嗎

[00:25:08.780 --> 00:25:10.780]  公眾人物本來就可受公平嘛

[00:25:10.780 --> 00:25:12.780]  我們做的任何一個

[00:25:12.780 --> 00:25:14.780]  我沒有說不接受公平啊

[00:25:14.780 --> 00:25:16.780]  你可以接受別人

[00:25:16.780 --> 00:25:18.780]  叫別人來攻擊這件事情嗎

[00:25:18.780 --> 00:25:20.780]  蛤

[00:25:20.780 --> 00:25:22.780]  我可以接受啊我光明正大

[00:25:22.780 --> 00:25:24.780]  做這件事情我承認

[00:25:24.780 --> 00:25:26.780]  我承認我花很多錢

[00:25:26.780 --> 00:25:28.780]  叫任你皮去

[00:25:28.780 --> 00:25:30.780]  參加你的DC加加

[00:25:30.780 --> 00:25:32.780]  什麼意思請講清楚

[00:25:32.780 --> 00:25:34.780]  我們剛剛沒有聽清楚請講

[00:25:34.780 --> 00:25:36.780]  你剛剛講了說我去評論丁特

[00:25:36.780 --> 00:25:38.780]  可是你卻講不出來我攻擊丁特

[00:25:38.780 --> 00:25:40.780]  什麼事情嘛

[00:25:40.780 --> 00:25:42.780]  我忘記了嘛你講的所有句話

[00:25:42.780 --> 00:25:44.780]  你講館長勒

[00:25:44.780 --> 00:25:46.780]  我會忘記

[00:25:46.780 --> 00:25:48.780]  我會忘記觀眾不會忘記啦

[00:25:48.780 --> 00:25:50.780]  我會忘記看過你的台的人

[00:25:50.780 --> 00:25:52.780]  不會忘記啦

[00:25:52.780 --> 00:25:54.780]  不要把觀眾當白癡啦

[00:25:54.780 --> 00:25:56.780]  好不好

[00:25:56.780 --> 00:25:58.780]  觀眾噴我我並沒有

[00:25:58.780 --> 00:26:00.780]  觀眾可以噴你我就不能噴你

[00:26:00.780 --> 00:26:02.780]  是不是

[00:26:02.780 --> 00:26:04.780]  怎麼會變成觀眾

[00:26:04.780 --> 00:26:06.780]  所以觀眾你可以接受公平

[00:26:06.780 --> 00:26:08.780]  就是不能接受我評嘛

[00:26:08.780 --> 00:26:10.780]  不能接受我叫別人去你DC加加嘛

[00:26:10.780 --> 00:26:12.780]  對啊

[00:26:12.780 --> 00:26:14.780]  對嘛那就講白了嘛

[00:26:14.780 --> 00:26:16.780]  就是你今天

[00:26:16.780 --> 00:26:18.780]  今天我罵你會痛

[00:26:18.780 --> 00:26:20.780]  所以你就有感覺你就不能接受

[00:26:20.780 --> 00:26:22.780]  要檢舉了觀眾呢

[00:26:22.780 --> 00:26:24.780]  這個DC加加

[00:26:24.780 --> 00:26:26.780]  對啊我罵你什麼了

[00:26:26.780 --> 00:26:28.780]  我不能罵你嗎

[00:26:28.780 --> 00:26:30.780]  我評論也可以我罵你也可以啊

[00:26:30.780 --> 00:26:32.780]  蔡英文我每天在罵

[00:26:32.780 --> 00:26:34.780]  柯文哲我也在罵

[00:26:34.780 --> 00:26:36.780]  那我罵一下

[00:26:36.780 --> 00:26:38.780]  什麼了你是公眾人物

[00:26:38.780 --> 00:26:40.780]  不能罵嗎

[00:26:40.780 --> 00:26:42.780]  可是你不能花錢請人來攻擊我

[00:26:42.780 --> 00:26:44.780]  這個東西叫什麼你請網軍耶

[00:26:44.780 --> 00:26:46.780]  誰是網軍

[00:26:46.780 --> 00:26:48.780]  天啊

[00:26:48.780 --> 00:26:50.780]  好啦

[00:26:50.780 --> 00:26:52.780]  我花錢請人去加入

[00:26:52.780 --> 00:26:54.780]  你的DC加叫做買網軍的行為是不是

[00:26:54.780 --> 00:26:56.780]  OK那我認啊

[00:26:56.780 --> 00:26:58.780]  我認啊

[00:26:58.780 --> 00:27:00.780]  我認啊怎麼了嗎

[00:27:00.780 --> 00:27:02.780]  大家你竟然認為說

[00:27:02.780 --> 00:27:04.780]  你可以讓大家

[00:27:04.780 --> 00:27:06.780]  你的DC加可以吵架

[00:27:06.780 --> 00:27:08.780]  可以理性討論

[00:27:08.780 --> 00:27:10.780]  那我花錢去找人去跟你DC加加

[00:27:10.780 --> 00:27:12.780]  怎麼了嗎

[00:27:12.780 --> 00:27:14.780]  我不只花錢

[00:27:14.780 --> 00:27:16.780]  找人跟你DC加加

[00:27:16.780 --> 00:27:18.780]  我今天本人

[00:27:18.780 --> 00:27:20.780]  也來跟你DC加加

[00:27:20.780 --> 00:27:22.780]  今天的討論

[00:27:22.780 --> 00:27:24.780]  事情就是說為什麼我這樣

[00:27:24.780 --> 00:27:26.780]  我今天在這裡跟你討論

[00:27:26.780 --> 00:27:28.780]  這些東西

[00:27:28.780 --> 00:27:30.780]  最主要的目的就是為什麼你覺得

[00:27:30.780 --> 00:27:32.780]  我不能評論你

[00:27:32.780 --> 00:27:34.780]  而你要叫人檢舉我

[00:27:34.780 --> 00:27:36.780]  這是今天討論的核心

[00:27:36.780 --> 00:27:38.780]  請問你為什麼不能接受

[00:27:38.780 --> 00:27:40.780]  我的

[00:27:40.780 --> 00:27:42.780]  你說我對你惡意攻擊

[00:27:42.780 --> 00:27:44.780]  沒有沒有

[00:27:44.780 --> 00:27:46.780]  我從頭講的都是我不能接受

[00:27:46.780 --> 00:27:48.780]  別人對我的意義攻擊

[00:27:48.780 --> 00:27:50.780]  請問好那我們回到

[00:27:50.780 --> 00:27:52.780]  問題的核心請問哪一句話

[00:27:52.780 --> 00:27:54.780]  叫做惡意攻擊

[00:27:54.780